Emma, Bishop of Lambeth led our first session after morning worship led by Margaret Sylvester-Thorne. Please note that the worship songs have been muted to avoid YouTube Copywrite infringements.
In Part two of the Reader Day Bishop Hugh sent a video message and some questions to challenge. This section contains a good deal of interesting discussion between those present – especially in the AGM section and the general feedback / plenary.
Below is a video participants were encouraged to watch before coming to Reader Day….. worth a watch if you have not seen it already.
Some people requested the report on Reader Ministry (spoken about by Bishop Hugh) by the sub-group of the Warden’s Committee
Reader Day Chat Comments
10:01:05 From Emma Ineson : “Lord God Almighty who was and is and is to come” (Revelation 4.8).
10:01:39 From Emma Ineson : : “He has made everything suitable for its time; moreover he has put a sense of past and future into their minds, yet they cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end” (3.11).
10:03:01 From Emma Ineson : “Remember the long way that the Lord your God has led you these forty years in the wilderness, in order to humble you, testing you to know what was in your heart,” (Deuteronomy 8.2)
10:03:42 From Emma Ineson : ‘A Christianity that seeks the Lord among the ruins of the past and encloses him in the tomb of habit is a Christianity without Easter’.
10:05:51 From Emma Ineson : 15While they were talking and discussing, Jesus himself came near and went with them, 16but their eyes were kept from recognizing him. 17And he said to them, ‘What are you discussing with each other while you walk along?’ They stood still, looking sad. 18Then one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answered him, ‘Are you the only stranger in Jerusalem who does not know the things that have taken place there in these days?’ 19He asked them, ‘What things?’ They replied, ‘The things about Jesus of Nazareth, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, 20and how our chief priests and leaders handed him over to be condemned to death and crucified him. 21But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel. Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things took place..’
10:08:24 From Emma Ineson : will power and way power
10:09:50 From Emma Ineson : Proverbs 13.12 says: “Hope deferred makes the heart sick”.
10:13:05 From Emma Ineson : We had hoped ….
10:14:54 From Jim : to meet in person….. but found the joys of zoom
10:15:28 From Sandy Massie : … to be further On The Way and have a better idea of the destination. (Kerrier)
10:15:46 From Claire Salzmann : we wouldn’t seek to return to ‘normal’, but reach for ‘newness’
10:16:02 From Lydia Remick : Amen Claire.
10:16:31 From Lydia Remick : … for more openness to lay ministries where they are not yet being utilised
10:16:56 From David Watters : To learn from the disappointments of the pandemic and bring that to a newness ……
10:17:03 From Claire : for our missing generations to reach for God
10:17:16 From Tony : to help ‘bottle stoppers’ out of the bottle!
10:17:19 From Tim Symonds : That the leaders of the church would call our nation to repentance because we have gone so far away from God as a nation. ‘If my people…2 Chron 7:14
10:17:29 From Martin Smith : to support what is and find ways for what will be.
10:17:31 From ann kerridge : that I could have more confidence in church leaders
10:18:04 From Sandy Massie : Amen to 2 Chron 7.14!
10:20:39 From Emma Ineson : “thought about the Future inflames hope and fear. Also, it is unknown to them, so that in making them think about it we make them think of unrealities. In a word, the Future is, of all things, the thing least like eternity.”
10:21:02 From Emma Ineson : followers “to attend chiefly to two things, to eternity itself, and to that point of time which they call the Present. For the Present is the point at which time touches eternity.”
10:23:58 From Emma Ineson : a church of missionary disciples
10:25:27 From Emma Ineson : younger and more diverse
10:26:40 From Emma Ineson : mixed ecology of church is the norm
10:31:53 From Emma Ineson : 1 Peter 1: 3-7 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By his great mercy he has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, 5who are being protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you rejoice, even if now for a little while you have had to suffer various trials, 7so that the genuineness of your faith—being more precious than gold that, though perishable, is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honour when Jesus Christ is revealed
10:33:12 From Emma Ineson : “Hope remains central not as something that we deserve, but as something that we are given … Hope cannot be separated from the life that Jesus offers in his death and resurrection. It is not based on wishful thinking, fantasy, hyperbole, or any propaganda promoted by the empire or those pretending to have God’s authority. Neither does such hope ever reduce to mere optimism, as if it were like a secular hope for good weather or the success of one’s football team. It is instead secure and anchored in God. This is the biblical mark of hope; it is always characterised by God’s assured redemptive future already reaching out towards us, yet never in our grasp by skill or power. Faithful hope, living hope, is refined and strengthened, rather than subverted, by the experience of trials and suffering”.
10:35:14 From Emma Ineson : We live the past according to our faith; we live the present according to our love; we live the future according to our hope’
10:35:58 From Emma Ineson : : “We have hope that …”
10:52:56 From David Watters : STP is a group who want things to be as they were in the past1
10:58:09 From Wendy Earl : Hear hear Michael!
11:31:29 From Lydia Remick to Jim(Direct Message) : We need to get AD Paul up to speed with some things as he says the same about LWLs only working in their area which is not right.
11:43:55 From Sally Piper : firstname.lastname@example.org
11:59:05 From Gaynor Sutton : Apologies everyone, I have to leave at 12 – many thanks for today
12:00:16 From Lydia Remick to Jim(Direct Message) : Hi Jim, I have a LWL event on everyday faith in Saturday and on the back on what Hugh is saying it feels right to invite LLMs
12:14:31 From Jim : How do you respond to the phrase ‘Readers are Community Ministers who teach, preach and enable everyday Christian faith’? How about the phrase ‘Community theologians for everyday faith’?
12:40:35 From Lydia Remick : https://trurodiocese.org.uk/contact-us/diocese-of-truro-contacts/
12:40:40 From Lydia Remick : second group down
12:43:24 From Sandy Massie : Is a copy of the Report available to all?
12:43:57 From Jim : I will send out the link again
12:47:15 From Claire to Jim(Direct Message) : Hi JIm, can you let me know who the DRC is for Bodmin and Trigg Minor? Many thanks Claire C
12:50:59 From Lydia Remick : https://bookwhen.com/trurodiocese/e/ev-sadb-20220521093000
Some of the issues raised:
Mixed messages about where Licensed Lay Minister were allowed to preach and lead worship.
* The lack of consistency in educating congregations and indeed Lay Ministers for Holy Communion by Extension. It is really important to read the policy document below!
Links to the training materials that should be used are here:
- The Eucharist (Book 6) (pilgrimcourse.org)
- CbE in DoT policy Letter CbE 060721 Training – liturgy Training – service order AC-Principles-of-Canon-Law
- Letter CbE 060721
- Training – liturgy
- Training – service order
The need to update the Reader Handbook and whether the AGM for Readers was necessary.
People in Post:
A note of who is in post:
- WARDEN : +Hugh
- DEPUTY WARDEN: Rev Canon Paul
- DIR. READER TRAINING : Vacancy
- CHAPLAIN – Jim
- MINUTE SEC. Margaret
- EVENTS Coordinator: Claire
- Warden +Hugh
- Deputy Warden Rev Paul
- Chaplain: Jim
- Director of Training – Rev Jane
- Post Licensing Tutor – Martin
- Lay Ministry Team: Lydia
- Ministry Team; Sally Piper
- Diocesan Admin Team: Mel
invited specialists where needed